
I had a thought this morning: Since condoms in porn are perceived by the adult industry as something that hurts the sales of a movie or scene, would it make a difference if internal (usually called female condoms) were used? So I asked the twitter-verse. The responses directly addressing the use of internal condoms mostly pointed out that they kind of hang out of the vagina and obscure the view of labia. This is probably more unpleasant visually than a traditional male condom. Point taken.
When you watch a solo scene of a girl with a toy... she's penetrating herself with a phallus shaped chunk of (sometimes glass or metal but
usually) plastic or rubber. Why is watching the same girl be penetrated with a penis wrapped in a thin covering of rubber or plastic seen as so much less hot?
Then there's the way that most men under 35 in my social group use condoms by default. They would be uncomfortable without them. The idea of unprotected sex "kinda totally freaks them out." How does that translate into almost exclusively condom-less porn?
I'm a real girl, with real tits, real nails and real concerns and desires to protect my health. In my real life, I usually use condoms. I probably ought to use them more often than I do. I'm not saying that they necessarily ought to be mandatory for adult entertainment. What I AM saying is that we need more exploratory dialogue about options, and an effective discussion of this needs to involve you, the consumer.
With that in mind, please discuss. Honestly, I'd like to hear your opinions and thoughts.
Comments
Condoms...
In my humble opinion it doesn't really matter, condoms, no condoms, heafty bags. I think people should be concerned with the hotness of the whole of the bangin taking place, not if the dude is wearing a thin layer of latex on his weiner or not...and it would make the porno more real as well, but only if theres that awkward "well I better go flush this thing down the toilet then clog the toilet and try to un-clog it naked" moment, that I'm sure we've all had experianced, at the end.
Xoxo
BST
PS
Stoya welcome back(ish)
Nude Plumbing...
Oh man... or your partner accidentally dropping a spermicidally lubed condom in your eye.
or finding a condom in the washing machine after the laundry has been run through.
All sorts of antics.
Stoya, I absolutely agree.
Stoya, I absolutely agree. As much as porn is about fantasy, I for one am always aware that there are real performers who are potentially putting themselves in real danger as they work, even with plenty of routine testing. I have to admit, I think there's a fascination with the bumping and rubbing of genitals in all their glory that condoms get in the way of (I'm not big on dildo scenes), but if the scene is well done and exciting and performers are hot and really into it, for the most part I could care less whether the guy's dick's "wrapped in a thin covering of rubber or plastic" ...
All the better to know that the performers may be taking better care of themselves and having a really good time doing it. As you plainly do in any scene I've seen with you. Thanks for thinking and speaking up!
Despite my job
I don't watch that much porn, but there's no way I'd watch condom porn. Condoms, while of course safe and smart, are GROSS. I'm all for stricter testing in porn, mandatory 2 day rule or something like but just looking at a condom makes me want to barf. Also, I always peel the skin of my sausage.
Eh, who am I kidding - I only watch blow job scenes anyway so I guess I don't really care although I can't imagine how much it would suck to shoot condom porn. Takes those fuckers long enough to cum already.
PS - I would totally back a face condom initiative for uglies with awesome bodies.
Monkey see....
Men try and fuck like the guys they see in porn. I think the mentality is 'if they're not, then why should I?'.
Introduce condoms into porn and make people understand its not a complete turn off and no doubt they'll follow logic eventually.
As a "man"
I think that line of thinking bullcrap. Sure, a lot of guys learn/copy/ape porn when it comes to technique but I don't think there's anyone out there dumb enough to think: "Hey Mick Blue isn't wearing a condom in this scene, so why should I?" Dudes usually skip wearing condoms because:
A. They know/think/are under the general impression that the girl/dude/tranny they're banging is clean.
B. They're serial impregnators.
C. They just don't give a shit about STDs or unwanted pregnancy.
D. They're too drunk to care.
E. Fucking with a condom (except for ass fucking) is more boring than watching that show GLEE.
Unwanted pregnancy is
Unwanted pregnancy is another seldom addressed concern. Some of us don't react well to birth control pills, and diaphragms and IUDs don't seem very practical with the kind of acrobatic sex that porn scenes tend to require.
Spock
Just reading both of these comments by you made me pee my panties.
thank you <3
In actuality....
Condoms do kind of hurt the scene. I don't like seeing a rubber-covered penis enter the vagina for the same reason I don't like seeing dildos in porn. There's something unnatural about it. They're just rubbery and colorful. I know it sounds trivial and stupid, but I honestly get off easier seeing a naked penis go into a naked vagina, especially in gonzo porn. Part of it might be my unconscious psyche kicking in and reminding me just how much better sex feels without a condom. I know they're safe and healthy, but if everyone in the porn industry is getting regularly tested and the male porn stars are experienced enough to be able to pull out while the female stars are on birth control (I don't know any of these to be true, but I assume they are), condoms are unnecessary in porn for any reason other than promoting safe sex. And it's really not the porn's job to do that.
That's kind of an absurd
That's kind of an absurd point of view. A dildo is unnatural? A condom is unnatural? It's porn - it's staged sex for the viewer's benefit. That's unnatural. You want realism, they should not only be wearing condoms, guys should be climaxing within 2 minutes of penetration, and that's just the start of the list.
Um?
Actually condoms are completely unnatural - unless you're using lambskins or some sort of dick-skin condom.
naturalism
there's nothing natural about putting a sheep intestine on your cock. I mean unless you're John Holmes having anal sex with a sheep. Otherwise using processed dead dinosaurs seems about as natural. Plus they actually stop STDs.
wow
if u guy is climaxing within 2 min of penetration u need to find a new man with more stamina becaus i think the shortest ive ever lasted was 15 min
Anal Sex
Could also be considered unnatural. Just sayin'
nope
Pornstars know the risks, just like stuntmen.
I dont want to see wires on a guy when hes falling off a building in a movie.
I dont want to see condoms in porn.
When I see condoms in porn,
When I see condoms in porn, I stop for a second and think, "weird, they're using a condom," and then continue enjoying the porn. I don't care about condoms. I care that the actress is someone as beautiful as Stoya is. And prefer POV porn. I want to fantasize about sex with a beautiful woman. In real life, she'd likely make me wear a condom, so I don't care if that's on screen. However, I am offended by how many ugly women are in porn these days. Why can't they all be Stoya?
Condoms
As a man who's never had sex WITHOUT a condom, I've never completely understood the lack of them in porn--or, when they are employed, they seem to magically "appear" on the penis, rather than actually being put on. When they do "appear," though, they don't bother me in the least. As for female condoms, they look like cumbersome things in real life, but I've never seen one used in porn--I'm always up (no pun intended) for a first!
Dude.
You're totally missing out. Sex is like 400 times better without one.
Ye Gods...!
You've *never* had nude-penis-sex? I mean, on the one hand, good for you and your safe self... but Great Hairy Jesus, I can't even imagine being all-condom, all-the-time. I can actually feel myself diving into a sympathetic depression just thinking about it.
No Big Deal
I personally don't really mind the condoms when I see them in porn. I'm not going to all of a sudden be completely turned off just because there is a condom there. Sure sometimes it can be a little distracting but most of the time the color of the condom is close to the skin tone so I don't even realize it at first.
Personally, yeah I do prefer sex with out a condom, when I am in a relationship where I know the person is clean. But besides that I would always use condoms, my health is my first priority. But people who base their sex lives on what they see in porn have other issues then just not wearing condoms.
My Two cents
See you talking about two different fascist here. Reality and fantasy. If you want to look at it from a consumer point of view porn is fantasy. A condom is a firm slap in the face of this fantasy, therefore it hurts the product most of the time. It's just the way it's developed. No one wants their fantasy to be completely safe, in fact it usually gets people off more when there is a bit of danger involved. Now you as a porn star, making these fantasy is part of your reality and a decision you have to make do i think my product would really take a hit. You are a far to attractive and have very large following so i really don't think a latex glove over a penis will effect you that much. Sex will sells no matter what . I find that to be a key, i wouldn't worry.
The gas makes dude ...
...two different fascists...
Now *there's* a discussion... who would you rather watch bareback someone, Mussolini or Hitler? Did Eva Braun spit or swallow? Benito may have made the trains run on time, but was he a preemie in the sack? Inquiring minds want to know.
fascists
let's make that facets, will you, and everything looks a lot friendlier all of a sudden:-D
Freudian slips can be nasty.
Benito would be able to tell
Benito would be able to tell you that he is in fact NOT a minute man, but a nine minutes and twenty three seconds man. Or whatever number.
I don't see the wrong of
I don't see the wrong of condoms in porn, I've watched scenes, particularly in non-American porn, where condoms almost seems to be natural, you even get to see the guy putting it on. Did it change anything to the scene ? Absolutely not. The sex was just as hot and the ending was the same as in a scene with no condom.
You are right, I'm in my late 20s and in this day and age, I certainly wouldn't see myself having sex without a condom. Do I think it would be hot ? Yeah, sure, it probably is (I've never tried). But most importantly, would it be safe ? Could I calmly go back to my regular life afterward ? Most likely not. And I don't speak only for myself, I equally care about my partner's health. In fact, I even think that preventing pregnancy comes second, after preventing diseases.
Condoms in porn ? Bring it on, I don't see nothing wrong. Besides, with a girl as hot and beautiful as you, who's focusing on a little piece of latex !
wrap it up, i'll take it
Working in the sex industry, and receiving a lot of emails from real people...yes they DO get their ideas/advice/sex education from porn. Parents do not talk about safe sex (or any sex it seems) to their kids or young adult children and many, many young people take the monkey see-monkey do approach.
I think if people saw more sexy condom scenes in even mainstream films it would help. Don't get me started on commercials like the DentyneGum-Safe-Sex-Innuendo. The HIV rate in the US is increasing in alarming rates! Who cares if it doesn't look good? Neither does dying in a hospital bed.
Metis Black said it best the other day "16455 dead from Swine Flu & everyone wants to wear a mask. 21.8 million have died from AIDS/HIV & nobody wants to wear a condom. Ponder that."
Blame our school systems
and government (especially the Bush regime) for cutting (or attempting to cut) correct sex education from curriculum.
It's not porn's responsibility to teach safe sex, it's the responsibility of educators (if not the parents). If you're too dumb or ignorant to know that you can catch a disease from unprotected sex then you probably deserve the disease you may end up with. That's like sticking your hand in fire and being surprised when you get burned.
Full body condom. (plz?)
Condoms hurt sales because the directors and producers of pornographic movies generally attempt to place a good deal of synthetic lust in to their films. In order to captivate the viewer and get them caught up in the moment or turn them on. The use of a condom would seem, just weird.
Peep these scenarios :
"What, did he guy come pre-wrapped in his under garments? Why is he walking around with a condom on his dick all the time? "
or
As the the scene starts to get heavy, "Wait - wait - wait baby! I gotta put this on! ... Just a second... Almost there... Okay! You ready?"
The only other alternative would be for them to place the condom on the guy and cut the clip of him putting it on, but imagine just seeing a guy getting oral and then the next scene, bam. Condom. That would fuck with my head a bit and draw away from the eroticism.
But if you are so adamant about the safety of not only yourself, but also the other actresses then you could start your own safe sex promoting branch of porn, rather than voicing your concerns to an industry who's first an primary concern is cash money.
I am sure the first one would be the only one to corner that market place. And every one would be safe in your films. And I will still have herpes.
Fuck a condom :p
Not for Blowjobs
Once insertion is complete you hardly notice if the guy has a condom on. It'd probably only bother me for blowjobs.
it doesn't bother me to
it doesn't bother me to watch porn where men wear condoms.
Condoms
I almost never watch porn when the performers use condoms. I do not view anything that Wicked makes and a lot of that has to do with their condom only stance.
Two main reasons for me. I am in a long term exclusive relationship and we do not use condoms. As a guy it feels a hell of a lot better to have sex without one. I know that this is not the most PC thing to say but it is my take.
The second reason is that porn is a fantasy and an outlet for me. I do not fantasize about sex with a condom on. Nor do I find the same voyeuristic pleasure from watching a sex scene when a condom is involved. I understand the inherent risks involved for the performers and would not advise anyone I know to take these risks. Certainly a dangerous profession and I could understand if a girl or guy wanted to go condom only but I would not buy the product. I know that the reasoning may be a little flawed but sexual preference is sexual preference.
PC or not...
It's still your opinion, which is precisely what I'm after. So thank you :)
Good. Too be fair I should
Good. Too be fair I should have realized that PC thoughts are a bit ridiculous when I am posting on a porn blog.
Still liked the question. Definitely made me think about why I do not like condoms in my porn.
T
For me porn is the perfect
For me porn is the perfect fantasy world, where all the girls are hot, with high sexual energy, always willing and enjoy sex as much as men, and most importantly: where STDs and unwanted pregnancies doesn't exist.
condom is kinda ruin the whole fantasy, so in general i dont like to watch porn with condom.
I wouldnt mind if in the future porn producers somehow managed to trick me into believing that no condom is involved when it actually is. Just like those stunt with wire and all in action movie. Superman flying in the sky is ok for me. superman with wire visible is not.
just my personal opinion. I agreed with your concern though.
Gigi I think you hit the
Gigi I think you hit the nail on the head here. Porn is a fantasy land where the problems of the real world don't exist. In porn anyone can get laid with a hot person in the blink of an eye. In porn no one gets ill, no one gets pregnant, no one has regrets. Condoms remind us that there is a real world and *our* sex lives are in that real world, with emotions, disease, unwanted pregnancy, and difficulty in finding someone we'd like to have sex with.
And you suggested the solution to this problem as well. Have performers use the condoms, then CGI them out. Everyone's happy, just like the ending of a porn film. :)
Up to the Individuals
Really, the title says it all. I'm not bothered by condoms, and I don't see the big friggin' deal so long as the sex is hot and the production crew is doing a good job. I crush on you Stoya. Thanks for being mindful and outspoken.
Well said SkarrKrow (and awesome name)
the underlying issue here is that OSHA is attempting to make condoms mandatory industry wide - which is something I have a HUGE problem with. If certain performers want to go condom-only, more power to them... but mandatory? Uh uh
Anything mandated by the
Anything mandated by the government rubs me the wrong way but I feel like we've gotten to the point where OSHA is attempting to step in by not discussing the issues and taking steps ourselves to make things as safe as possible. Condoms aren't fail safe and may not be the best answer, but it really needs to be talked about.
Fair point but
OSHA's just trying to shut porn down
That's certainly plausible
But doesn't it make sense to explore options and fiscally viable ways of making the adult industry safer, rather than sit and wait for a government agency with ulterior motives to tell us what we HAVE to do?
Um,
I love you?
stay focused;-)
love who? Come on, you can do better than that. Stoya is trying to make a well-reasoned and eloquent point here, don't opt out by letting your gonads take over:-D
oh i was talking to my cat
my wonderful little kitty cat
Wow - lots of comments
I think everything on both sides has already been said, but I don't understand why condoms matter once the scene is on. I understand not wanting to watch the before and after - opening the package or tossing the leftovers breaks the mood - but if you cut to it and it's there - I don't see the big deal. For me - my focus is on the girl and what's being done to her, not the state of the cock that's doing the deed.
That's just watching, mind you. I'd rather not use them myself. I DO for several what are probably obvious reasons. But I don't have to feel the damned thing when I watch pr0n.
re: condoms
Honestly, I think safety is sexy as fuck. It's kind of ridiculous to me that viewers might bitch about condom use in porn...lets care about the safety of these performers! I think the porn biz is just afraid to losing customers if they were to make it necessary for condoms during sex scenes. Honestly, if the porn world all suddenly said "guess what audience? you don't like condoms? oh well, we're using them because it's smart and we care about the health of our performers" people would NOT stop watching porn. Just like if chocolate companies stopped making milk chocolate, and they only made dark chocolate. Would everyone stop eating chocolate? Hell no. Milk chocolate lovers might bitch about it at first, or find it off putting, but eventually they'd want some yummy chocolate so bad that they'd learn to love dark chocolate. Did I just liken the love of dark chocolate to the porn fantasy of condomless sex? Yes, yes I did. Watching people fuck is fucking HOT. A piece of latex doesn't take away from the sexiness of a scene, but a bad attitude does. Let's be responsible, and caring, fuck eachother without spreading unnecessary disease.
Thanks for writing this piece Stoya!
To play devil's advocate for a moment...
The thing about your chocolate analogy is that consumers can't download or rent milk chocolate from the 80s instead of purchasing new product, but with porn they can. Definitely appreciate the commentary and sentiment though :)
Also,
for that analogy to be apt, you'd have to compare sex with condoms to eating chocolate with the wrapper still on - ZING!
Could someone just...
buy my zazzle tshirt over there in the left? I wanna see someone wear my face on their chest!
- Not Fade Away
I will buy
a pair of panties when you put your face on them Mr. Bangs
Damn you woman....
Zazzle doesn't make panties!
- Not Fade Away
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